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Jan Blecha
@janblecha · Jul 21

Hi everyone 👋

I want to share a fresh addition to my portfolio – I’ve opened a position in PepsiCo $PEP. The main motivation is simple: I wanted to make my portfolio a bit more defensive. So far it’s been driven mainly by tech, and a piece of a stable business was simply missing.

The recent quarterly results helped, too – in my view, they weren’t as bad as the market reaction might suggest. Revenue of $24.2 billion beat estimates, US snacks returned to volume growth, and the international business is doing great. The weak spot remains North American beverages, where volumes fell 4%. It’s not a flawless quarter, but solid for a company the market has been writing off for the past two years.

What I like most is the combination of valuation and dividend. A P/E of around 18 is very modest by PepsiCo standards, and a dividend yield above 4% from a Dividend King with over 50 years of consecutive increases is something you don’t see every day. The same logic led me to recently open a position in McDonald’s $MCD – another defensive name, although there the valuation with a P/E around 22 and a yield of 2.7% is noticeably less generous.

Going forward, I’ll be watching two things with this position. First, the development in North America, their largest region – until beverages return to growth there, the overall recovery will only be half-hearted. And second, the payout ratio, which has gradually climbed to around 75% of earnings. That’s still quite high, but in my view still within a safe range – it will just need monitoring to ensure earnings growth keeps pace with the dividend.

And what about you – do you have PepsiCo in your portfolio, or hasn’t it convinced you yet? Would you be buying at these levels, or would you wait until the company shows it can return to growth at home?

VN

Hi, I just opened a position in $PEP for exactly the same reason, I like the generous dividend and the results were not bad at all. I hesitated a bit compared to $KO but in the end I was swayed by the larger manufacturing segment, where there is more opportunity for the company to diversify its sources if a sector stops working.

JB

Great, $KO is certainly not a bad company, it also has better margins and is growing faster, I considered it myself, but from a valuation perspective I see more sense in $PEP and exactly as you say, that production segment is much more diversified. Do you have any other dividend stocks in your portfolio?

A

I bought $PEP in 11/2020 for $140 and sold it in 01/2026 for $146, because I’d rather put that money into other companies that are at least growing. This is pure stagnation, where I saw no potential.

JB

Thanks for your opinion :)

VS

I held $PEP shares for a while, but I later sold them at a small profit (about 12% plus dividends). Right now, I’d rather have $KO shares in my portfolio. I fully understand why defensive stocks belong in a portfolio, and I like that you share this view!

I also like $MCD shares. Today, they are at the same price as two years ago.

JB

It's true that $KO is growing faster and certainly it's a great dividend company, but as for the product portfolio, I like $PEP better + the valuation just seems better to me now.

JI

From the more defensive ones I would choose $FAST, $SNA, $CINF ...

JB

Thanks for the tips, I’ll check them out. :)

VN

The valuation went down, but so did the EPS growth estimate, so from a PEG perspective it's currently at around 3. Why buy a company for portfolio protection that hasn't beaten the index in the short/long term?

M

Does Hmm take dividend pegs into account?

MS

I bought $PEP shares last year at values around $130, as a defensive element of the portfolio it's great. What other defensive positions besides $MCD and $PEP do you have?

JB

Currently I still hold $WM, $BRK-B, and $SPGI, which I also consider a more defensive title. What other positions do you hold?

KJ

Good buy for me. The price is at very good levels right now. Although it's been hovering around $140 for some time, the dividend is thus higher than it was, say, 3 years ago, and it's a very solid business.

VS

For the defensive part of the portfolio, it is definitely a very good pick!

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